Evansdale is not a rural town. Yeahwho, Mr. Robert Lindsay who apparently knows who the killer is. Both teenagers were in 8th standard and had a day off. Not the kind of place and random trucker would know about or be able to drive their truck easily into. All fingers point right the immediate family. No closer for the family. Murders and crimes like such are committed for punishment, and the person being punished must be made aware of this fact. She wants me to stain the steps outside her front door this week. No other information was released to police other than the confirmation, Abben said. Lyric was older than her little cousin and also very big for her age at 160 pounds. A publication about unsolved mysteries from the deep ocean to space and from antiquity to present day. This from ICC admin Jody Ewing: While we appreciate all comments and hope to foster discussion about this unsolved case (which includes both girls), I see no point in someone attacking another persons spelling or grammar. By continuing to browse, you accept the use of cookies and other technologies. Follow ICC on Twitter. Delphi may well have been an attempted abduction, a la Evansdale, which went wrong due to the girls being that bit older, stronger and more aware of what was happening. They were taken to an area that is very remote. Atlas. Hopefully with time theyll fess up if they dont get busted first. Sign up for The Lineup's newsletter, and get our most terrifying stories delivered straight to your inbox. Being there was two girls, one watched the other die first, again, pointing back to the MO. The body types of one set matches the other set. they didnt go out and say ( we dont know how thy were killed ? I believe with all of my heart one of two theories as fact. Roger, Please dont feel like I am attacking you directly, Im just trying to shed light on this blind spot we Iowans seen to have regarding murder, and the reasons it occurs. Hunters, fishermen, and campers tend to frequent it during deer season in the fall and in the spring. Sheriff: No comment, KWWL Channel 7, Feb. 12, 2013, Officials to Rename Park, Trail for Cousins Abducted from Evansdale, KCRG-TV Channel 9, Feb. 5, 2013, Cause of Evansdale cousins deaths will be kept confidential, The Des Moines Register, Jan. 2, 2013, Funeral for Lyric Cook planned for Dec. 29, The Iowa City Press-Citizen, Dec. 17, 2012, Autopsies confirm bodies are missing girls, KCCI Channel 8, Dec. 10, 2012, Cousins case nears homicide classification, The Des Moines Register, Dec. 8, 2012, 127 Photos Search for Missing Iowa Girls, The Des Moines Register, Missing Girls: Autopsies could take weeks, KCCI Channel 8 Des Moines, Dec. 7, 2012, 2 bodies found in N.E. Its such a strange coincidence last weekend my mother in law gave me the number for a good heart doctor here in the Cedar Falls/Waterloo area. I know, that is what I have been asking you. All Rights Reserved, Home Its very obvious that this horrible tragic event took place because of the heavy drug use and selling of drugs within the families. Morel Mushroom season ends around the end of May. Their is possesive, as in it is their turn. Were going to find you, and were going to come get you, said Waterloo Director of Safety Services Dan Trelka. Theres probably more Im missing.I just wish the Evansdale girls got a 1/3 of the publicity as Delphi. Some think it was a botched kidnapping/ransom scenario that went wrong ? This seems to be a chance encounter with an opportunistic predator, or someone who will acknowledge an opportunity that presents them with the chance to abuse a child. Also in May 2014, Drew Collins and Waterloo Director of Safety Services Dan Trelka traveled to Utica, New York, to participate in the Ride for Missing and Exploited Children. You sent December 7, 2020 Please add the courier and kewl stories about the chief of police Kent smock being corrupt and being fired, then disappeared. I really hope they find the sick person behind this. He was released from custody following Lyrics disappearance so he could be with his family. It wasn't long before the pair decided to spend a sunny and warm summer afternoon on a bike ride. There is a connection. Elizabeth Collins (left) and Lyric Cook (right) were found dead in Iowa in 2012. Lyric and Elizabeth were then seen on Lake Avenue, still together and on their bikes. Good job Prolly. LASCIVIOUS ACTS W/CHILD-INFLICT PAIN OR DISCOMFORT (FELD). Thats where he stayed or lived with his mom or grandmother and the girls rode their bikes right past his house on Gilbert Street and all around there. He was reportley being followed by a blue car.. Btw, only one set of parents was connected with drugs. You just dont remember it. According to KWWL Channel 7, the other witness told police they saw the vehicle parked near the woods on the east side of the lake only a few hundred feet from where the bikes were found. The other girl managed to escape when Klunder took Shepard to another part of the property, police say. Absolutely. Most likely a team of two, but sexual predators, especially child sex offenders, tend to commit crimes alone. SOMEONE know a piece of information that would help break this case. Im being a broken record here, but for a good reasonLOOK DEEPER INTO THE CONNECTIONS THE >FAMILIES< HAD IN THE DRUG WORLD The bigger, more robust girl in each pair had similar names. XXXXX and her relatives know all these people personally and no one ever asked them anything, They have the girls DNA I am sure and if the did a good investigation they kept personal items of the girls. Lyrics parents and Elizabeths father (Mr. Collins on this page sorry for your losses, sir) went into detail about their mistakes, how theyve paid for them, and what theyre doing now to make things better and honor their daughters/nieces memory. Thats obviously not a significant similarity though. All someone would have to do is threaten them with a gun. Easy to get VIN, get crushers records, date, etc. Im not pushing this off on Drugs because its the path of least resistance, Im stating known and proven facts. the fbi and dci camped at the evansdale pd for months or years after this and were present during this time that Kent was fired. Unlike Lyric and Elizabeths case, Abby and Libbys bodies were found the next day. During a press conference that day, police said they believed the person who abducted the cousins was likely local, the Waterloo Cedar Falls Courier reported Aug. 22, 2014. What I want to know it the address the grandmother lived at when this occured. He is now suspect for Delphi murders. Try our coffee!! Both are deceased now, but Chad should be considered a suspect anyway. Yes! I also often wonder how they were able to rule him out. From my understanding, Michael Klunders first crimes did in fact happen in the Waverly area. OMG he lived 16 minutes or 6 miles from the Seven Bridges park SIX MINUTES!!! All I know is how I feel and all I want(ed) here was to see a couple little girls home and home they are now. I didnt know what was going on until a classmate told me: The missing girls have been found. Rest in peace. Mike, he sounds like a good candidate. Really !, dont dig deeper to find out who did this ??? Although I have to admit Id like hear what she has to say. Their bikes and Elizabeths purse were later found on a trail on the southeast corner of Meyers Lake about 4 p.m. the same day the girls went missing, but there were no clues as to their whereabouts. Its a niche sort of area that only has locals going to it for hunting, fishing, and seasonal morel mushroom hunting. So sad. Prior to that it had been since before 1970 that a chief of police had been let go in evansdale. The whole town was looking for her, yet she was already deceased in his attic. Thank you! Three years already. Her daughter said R. Fitz attempted to get her to kiss his .., but more alarming, his wife was there and she laughed and said, Russell, put that thing away and made some comment that he needed to quit doing that stuff. People on the crew could have seen them alone every day on those paths. People jumped on to the idea that it might have been a trucker, but there is a large fence between the park and the interstate. B Boxer Im a 56 year old woman and have been following this case for some time. Investigators have yet to share publicly how Lyric and Elizabeth died. Were coming for you, Trelka said. This is the most obscure area in the park and is next to I-350. (2) Both double murders happened on the same date read backwards (which I do NOT believe was just a coincidence). In no way do i feel attacked by you making a comment, thats why we are members of this site, to bring minds together. Chillingly, the dates both sets of girls vanished, 7-13-12 and 2-13-17, are anagrams of each other. When asked about Altmayer on July 12, 2017, Roehrkasse told KWWL, The most I would say is that he is one of our leads and I will leave it at that.. Hypnosis will bring it out and we can move on. The case remained could until 1977 when he allegedly visited his mother, she claimed her son told her that he had escaped from a child abuse ring by prominent Iowa businessmen and politicians .. I would like to try and track the path they took TO the park as I feel someone watched them and followed them in there, waiting til they got to this remoter area. You may have interviewed the gentleman I am addressing here. I know a lot of people focus on Lyrics mother and father because of their drug history, but some people were focused more on where the girls were found: Seven Bridges Wildlife Area. Then theres the reward. Dan had been in custody due to several drug charges involving meth. There are alot of good intended people but none of us really know and God forbid we ever do know what its like to have one of our own children taken in such evil and cruel way. Again Thank you Kim. rip little angel my heart aches that the world is so cruel to take you and your cousin. Heartbreaking..i hope they find.out who did this to them . Lyric Cook, 10, and her 8-year-old cousin Elizabeth Collins were allegedly murdered just a couple hundred kilometers away from where Abigail and Liberty were found in Indiana. While we were sitting on the lawn waiting for instructions on the search parties. Im sorry no child is safe. Either way, look deeper into the families connection with the drug world and you WILL find the killer/killers. If you think someone might be a suspect, contact the authorities rather than putting someones name on public forums. The bodies were transported to the State Medical Examiners Office in Ankeny for positive identification. He was still alive when these two girls were taken. I cant imagine what their families have gone through with thier disappearance and deaths. Why was he fired. Nearly 200 people attended Elizabeths burial. Make sure you have facts to support your suspicions. Of Public Safety. All four of the bodies were left on land that is typically frequented by hunters. tried to deescalate the crowd by reassuring us that Kent smock was the man for the job! Trees and a fence partially block the view from the highway but there are houses on the other side of the trees that have a direct line of sight to the trail. The Morrissey family has been the subject of intense scrutiny, particularly Lyrics father, Dan. Best address match on Been Verified is 2568 Independence Ave Evansdale, IA 50707. Many years ago the man that lived there kidnapped and killed a small child. What kind of closer? Unreal! This July 13th will be the ninth anniversary of the girls disappearance. KCCI said court records show Altmayer was working as a traveling automobile damage field inspector. They sent it to the cops: No response. Lyric was a very special young lady. On the other hand, there might be more than one perpetrator. My family refused to tell me because they didnt want to scare me deluded and risky Here is ISP Detective Jerry Holman August 2017. The city of Evansdale planned a child safety day, and volunteers prepared for the Fourth Memorial Ride and Drive. I myself have been sexually abused as a child. Its happended before one guy fessed up after about 40 years turned himself in. She attended Kingsley Elementary School and was 10 years old. If you analyse any two cases for long enough youll find similarities between them. Its not a subject I want to talk about with my frail mother in law. XXXXX sent December 7, 2020 This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN. How did someone get two girls into a vehicle off a bike trail with no one seeing the struggle? Lyric and Elizabeth were found so much later( 5 months), I doubt LE could identify COD. That section of hwy 20 was under construction for months. Elizabeth Collins, 8 & Lyric Cook, 10 Homicide Narrative: Delphi, Indiana Friends Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, left school early and were dropped off around 1:45pm by a relative to go hiking on trails near the Moon High Bridge in Delphi, Indiana. As XXXXX is telling me this story, she burst into tears. So we take that into consideration as well and we've investigated that, we've been in contact with Iowa and they've been in contact with us and we've discussed that but nothing else seems to be popping up around the nation that is similar to this but doesn't mean he's gonna kill everybody the same way every time. Theres many similarities. The parents may not know the specific killer but they DO know why thoes beautiful little girls lives we taken ! Thankfully, we know for every county, every city, what unsolved missing persons cases they have, said Gerard Meyers, assistant director of field operations of the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation in a USA Today story published June 10, 2013. Care to mention? The city also declared July 13 as Lyric and Elizabeth Day.. Dont say anything to anyone except find out what he drove from those people, if it really stunk, why they didnt call the PD, if they really crushed it, etc. The girls' bodies were found the following day, approximately half a mile from the bridge. (i.e. He also was in jail for assaulting Misty, from whom he is divorced. They did so without attacking anyone else in the process. In fact you could come up with an endless list of similarities. She had a big heart and had a great love for animals. Was it the result of a deadly drug dispute, or the work of a serial killer? According to KCRG, the group hopes to continue raising money to add a few more memorials and additions to the park like a roadway from the land to the island, a gazebo, and possibly a bronze statue. Sorry for your loss. Lyric loved to be outside playing snow, rain, or shine. The girls set out around noon that day. Some do appear more significant than others, but also have reasonable explanations that dont point to them being linked. Parents drug dealers did it. Volunteers soon came out by the hundreds, organizing candlelight vigils, press conferences, and searches. And I think I know who it is. Smock said they want to speak with anyone who is familiar with the wildlife area which was formerly a Bremer County park and a popular gathering place in order to eliminate them as suspects. Lyric and Elizabeth were in IA. But, it is one piece of the pie. 12/7/20, 5:39 PM Five months later on December 5th, 2012, hunters in the Seven Bridges Wildlife Area stumbled across two bodies, smaller in stature and appearing to be female. Even though LE has stated they do not believe the two to be connected in any way, the similarities really are chilling. Old people love to talk about other old people. Is that one that they describe with a noun, then they do it again? Her desire to have fun within those loving relationships was seen while going to church, sharing devotions with her parents in the morning and card games with her grandmother in the afternoons. he hadnt been on the job for more then a couple weeks, recently retiring from the jail as a deputy. Its right next to Waterloo. They even tried to drain the lake to find something of value, but turned up short. I cant believe something so heinous took place in a small town. The remembrance came with a message for the killer of the Black Hawk County girls. I pray for justice, for this little Angel. The find didnt turn up anything new, but the video did confirm the official police timeline. There not enough time. Hundreds of volunteers had helped search for the cousins, and the lake near where their bicycles were found had been partially drained. The Gazette said other cases against Dan Morrissey charge him with possessing, dealing and making methamphetamine, and a range of other drug charges that could lock him up for decades if convicted. Talk to the police about it? There is other things to worry about especially finding the killer of these two girls and your acting like a grammar nazi. No one in this world is perfect, so before you point out the flaws in these families, make sure you take a look at yourself, your family, and flaws that you have. Have you called him to ask why? In her short years Lyric came to know the Lord Jesus Christ and the importance of salvation through Jesus for the people of the world. On Monday afternoon, December 10, 2012, the Iowa State Medical Examiners Office confirmed the bodies found on Wednesday were those of Lyric Cook and Elizabeth Collins. Not everyone has a conscience, I see that you have been correcting peoples grammar but dont you mean coma instead of comma? The children were moved from the abduction site and their bodies were dumped in a more remote area 25 miles away, so, like the police said, the abductor most likely lives in and knows the area. I would bet anything it had to do with the drugs n ratting ppl out.makes me sick to my stomach because I was down by the lake twice that day within that time frame.. Steve, am sure you have done so did you see anything or remember anything? The one that kind of got the ball rolling was actually several months later. Please take a look at this Doctoroz.crimeHunters. Two teenagers Abby and Libby, ages 13 and 14 years, respectively, from Delphi, Indiana, died in February 2017. I know you have interviewed all the usual suspects, including those named in the Dephi murders, etc. Sorry if this has been mentioned before but its my first post after catching up on the Iowa murders but just watching LordanArt's latest Elizabeth and Lyric video and wondered about a possible connection between the Iowa deaths of 13th July and Delphi's 13th February dates? Basically just asking the prosecutor for a ton of documents and information. Those with information were encouraged to call the Evansdale police tip line at 232-6682 or Cedar Valley Crime Stoppers at (855) 300-8477. I think maybe cops and family are all to blame,this should have been solved right after those girls were found,cops and family must have known right away who did it they just dont want to hurt the parents,they hide behind lack of evidence,in any other state this would have been solved years ago,but not in rural Iowa where hardly any crime ever goes to trial because they plead everything down or if trial its 99% always a guilty verdict,so my opinion is nothing will ever happen,which is sad. My thinking is maybe someone saw them from a road and it was a crime of opportunity. They would kill the children and lay them face down with their arms folded under their heads as if they were sleeping. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The little girls were around the same age as my son. On February 6, 2013, officials announced that the trail and park at Meyers Lake would be renamed to honor the memory of Lyric and Elizabeth. Investigators are hesitant to rule out linkage. Someone who only commits his crime if a bridge is involved in some way, and always leaves the bodies within 50 feet of a slow moving stream. No one is ever 100% perfect with grammar and punctuation, but this site isnt about grammar or punctuation; its about unsolved murders and missing persons cases. Hardly anything about him. (No) one should b trusted or ruled out. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. . Jeff Altmayer, 58, was charged with trying to entice children in Jasper, Monona and Grundy County by offering them $100 to get in his van. Want more chills and thrills? Five blocks from my home a murdered womans body was dumped. Some have said the fact that the hunters found the girls bodies in such a remote area is lucky. Fingers crossed that their case gets solved soon! 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